The expose Kelly McNeill page!

March 1, 2006

Updated, June 21st, 19:20: Why would you look at that. Break out the popcorn and enjoy the Kelly-show!
Updated, April 29th, 00:34: Fcuking hell, and there was I thinking my fame was diminishing. Another few in one story. [Comments censored]
Updated, April 29th, 00:31: It’s been a while, but here’s one.
Updated, April 11th, 19:17: Various comments attributed again. People exposed Kelly for the Apple whore that he is by explaining him the concept of DHCP, among other things.
Updated, April 4th, 23:02: Another comment. This is getting ridicoulous, but there’s little I can do.
Updated, April 3rd, 18:55: Another comment.
Updated, March 29th, 19:44: And even more comments.
Updated, March 29th, 19:40: More comments attributed to me in a single story.
Updated, March 26th, 12:29: More comments attributed to me in a single story. The ‘real’ posters have asked Kelly again to post evidence. Which he hasn’t, of course.
Updated, March 21st, 20:54: Another comment. Added atop the list below.
Updated, March 20th, 23:16: He is now claiming I’m astroturfing. More here.
Updated, March 19th, 11:11: Added latest falsily attirbuted comments. Multiple comments attributed to me in a single story. None were mine.

Kelly McNeill is at it again. He is now again falsily attributing comments on his crappy website to me– even though I did not make them. He is doing this because he thinks OSNews is in some sort of conspiracy to deliberatly make Apple Computer look bad. Another well-established website in that so-called conspiracy is CNet.

That is why he now is attributing any negative comment about Apple Computer on his website to me. However, I have not posted, am not posting, and will not be posting, on his website. Hence, I created this special page that will list all the falsily attributed comments, for all you people out there to link to. Please, make links to this page on your blog.

Why is he doing this? Jealousy and paranoia. The guy is extremely jealous over OSNews’ success, both under Eugenia’s supervision and mine. Hence, we are the targets for his smear-campaign. He even tried to buy OSNews in the past! He does not want us to post on his website, and in a deal described in one of my blogposts linked to below, I promised not to (not that I ever did in the past, but who cares). I kept my promise, but that does not matter to him. His part of the deal was to no falisly attribute comments to me anymore– but he has broken that promise multiple times now. My feeling tells me he is makign the comments in question himself, but it is also very well possible just someone else makes them (and indeed, in one of the threads in question, someone got pissed off because his comment was attributed to me!).

Why doesn’t he just block me, you ask? Well, that’s easy to answer: if he blocks me, then he cannot falsily attribute comments to me anymore! The 2nd section of this page (below) will contain links to previous entries on this blog about Kelly McNeill, to help you gain a better understanding of the matter.

Read these posts to gain a better understanding of what Kelly McNeill is (old to new):

  • Explanation“;
  • Ban“;
  • Loser“;
  • Kelly McNeil nailed– and it’s not by a girl“;
  • Fake“;
  • Kelly McNeil“.

    Allright, the list of fake comments, newest on top:

  • Apple undergoing major upheaval and no one’s ALARMED?!! [Comments censored] ;
  • Windows Vista To Make Dual-Boot A Challenge?;
  • IT could be drafted into Boot Camp;
  • Did Apple maneuver Microsoft into their troubles with Windows Vista?”;
  • Macs are Faster - Benchmarking - Virtualization Technology - Increased Market Share;
  • Sounding the Microsoft Death Knell, For a Change;
  • Why Is Anyone Still Using Internet Explorer?;
  • Five years of Mac OSX;
  • Will XP melt your Mac?;
  • PC Magazine on G5 Quad Pricing: Fact, Fiction, or FUD?;
  • Dvorak: Will Microsoft Adopt OS X?;
  • The New Mac Mini;
  • The “Software Piracy” Controversy;
  • Barron’s: Apple Computer could buyout Disney.

    If you happen to be the maker of one of those comments, then please let either Kelly know, or simply post on his website in reply. If you want to tell me you made the comments, then feel free and I will put your email in which you ‘claim’ the comments, online, on this page.

    Feel free to email Kelly McNeill, or to comment on his website to let him know you disapprove of these false accusations, made by mutliple offender of OSNews’ rules, and breaker of man-to-man deals. However, please remember that we are better humans than him, so always stay polite. Together, with the power of the internet, we can expose the phoney that is osViews!

  • Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

    7 Messages »

    1. I don’t think he is necessarily writing all these messages himself, but he probably has no idea about IP addresses and how they work, and so he ASSUMES that when he sees a SIMILAR IP address to yours, that this was you making the comments. This is a classic case of half-knowledge being worse than no-knowledge at all. Assumption is the mother of all f*ckups, as they say here in the US.

      Comment by Eugenia — March 2, 2006 @ 10:20 pm

    2. I wouldn’t get too excited, Thom, when you talk about OSnews’ success. It is, afterall, just a shadow of Slashdot.

      Comment by Bob — April 7, 2006 @ 10:08 pm

    3. It is, afterall, just a shadow of Slashdot.

      The only way in which Slashdot is ‘better’ than OSNews is in sheer volume of readers. On all other fronts, OSNews kicks Slashdot’s ass– badly.

      1) We have much, much, much, much better browser support. OSNews.com will work on any browser, no matter how old or obscure, no matter on mobiles or on pda’s or on desktops, and you are automagically redirected to the page that fits your borwser best. Slashdot cannot say the same;
      2) Our page layout is cleaner and less cluttered and more usable than Slashdot’s. At OSNews.com, the news is the focus. At Slashdot… Well, there really isn’t a focus;
      3) Slashdot’s commenting engine is impossibly complex and unusable. It takes a fcuking manual to understand it. OSNews’ commenting engine, while far less advanced, does not require a manual, and can be used understandably by anyone who visits the site;
      4) We are faster than Slashdot. We have news faster than Slashdot. Slashdot almost always lags behind OSNews. This is because when Eugenia’s asleep, I’m awake, and vice versa;
      5) We aren’t as arrogant as Slashdot. Slashdot seems to think it is king of the world, and rejects submissions if they are not formatted EXACTLY to fit their needs. We at OSNews don’t give a fcuk. If you just put the link in the submission field, we’re fine with it, we don’t care. Of course we appreciate it if people nicely format their submissions- but we don’t require it. We don’t force people into doing the work we as editors are suposed to do;
      6) We have original content, Slashdot rarely has that;
      7) And probably the most important point: Slashdot is populated by mostly anti-MS, pro-OSS people. And that goes for the editors as well. At OSNews, we are unbiased. Me and Eugenia, who do most of the news, use whatever tool fits the job best; we use Linux, we use OSX, we use Windows. We don’t care. And this shines through on OSNews’ front page: no bias to be found there.

      So, I don’t really see how Slashdot is supposed to be better than us. Of course, if amount of users is your most important point, then I guess Windows is the best OS, and Kelly Clarkson is bigger than Elvis Presley.

      Comment by Administrator — April 9, 2006 @ 3:23 pm

    4. His problem is a simple one. He would like to claim to be running a site, as he says, by the people for the people. He also talks about taking technology journalism back (from who or where is not clear) to the community.

      This means he has to solicit comments on stories.

      However, when the comments come, they turn out to be ones he does not agree with. Now for some reason, he cannot stand to have views he disagrees with posted on the site he is running.

      So, he is obliged to angrily rebut them. I have the impression that he does partly while posting anonymously, because there are some anonymous posters on OSV who use the usual hack phrases that KM himself uses. Most people just stop when he does this and go someplace else.

      However, the poster who has offended him sufficiently to have him represented as yourself has not stopped when abused in this way. Or maybe there are more than one poster. (It is quite possible that others on the same ISP have joined in. At one point, one poster put up his IP address for all to inspect, and it was one of the major UK ISPs. A certain mischievous cast of mind might be unable to resist joining in at that point.)

      Consequently he is obliged to first make up the theory that he is you. It seems impossible that anyone could really believe this, so it must be doubtful that he does. Then, when this accusation fails to stop him (or maybe them), he has no solution left but to delete the postings. He cannot block, since you can only block by group, and so he would shut out lots of potential people.

      The reason for all this is quite simple, he cannot tolerate opinions which differ from his. Not just on Apple, but on any subject.

      And so we end up with a version of technology journalism for the people which solicits comments, and receives none, and which purports to be for the people and by the people, but will not allow them to speak, and which professes to want to take technology journalism back to the community, but which, as the anonymous poster recently said, has become one of the sites from which the community really needs to take technology journalism back.

      It could all be avoided by tolerating the expression of OS views…

      Comment by anon — May 1, 2006 @ 4:15 pm

    5. I would suggest being very, very, very careful at this point.

      There appears to be a fixation on three topics which have assumed intense personal importance for reasons that are not clear: Apple, OSNews, and Thom.

      This leads to a bunch of throw away comments with disturbing overtones. Like, ‘we will be monitoring Mr Holwerda’. Like, in reply to a comment, ‘its interesting you see it like that’. Like the idea that OSNews staff are posting there. Like, ‘they know what they have to do’.

      The sense of grievance is mounting, the gap between what the public finds interesting and acceptable and what is being published editorially is widening.

      We may be seeing a slow motion personal tragedy in the making. Best back off and avoid, or try to avoid, becoming part of it.

      Comment by anon — June 22, 2006 @ 11:01 am

    6. Notice today that all 35 or so comments on the editorial have been erased.

      Comment by anon — June 23, 2006 @ 6:40 am

    7. How many people have trouble following the threads on slashdot?
      Comments seem to have no logical way of following each other.

      While they have some brilliant articles these are the exception rather than the rule and as regards finding them …. dear me!

      Comment by Anonymous coward — October 23, 2006 @ 5:12 pm

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