Comments on: If I ever ruled this country http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/ I'm feeling pretty good about myself right about now. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:36:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Hugo http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-977 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:02:18 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-977 You know the Vatican is just very small part of Rome, all it's "citizens" are clergy from from the same religion and total population just a few hundreds. Unless your're talking about just the holy places in Jerusalem it would never work, and even then who would be in control of your little "Vatirusalem"? Some sort of Pope? You know the Vatican is just very small part of Rome, all it’s “citizens” are clergy from from the same religion and total population just a few hundreds.
Unless your’re talking about just the holy places in Jerusalem it would never work, and even then who would be in control of your little “Vatirusalem”? Some sort of Pope?

]]> by: Edwin http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-976 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:01:47 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-976 Mandatory military and/or community service only teaches something if yer willing to accept the message. Besides, who decides what society deems as being 'good' morals and values? Community service and military service are two completely different things, I don't see how they would teach the same morals and values. People with financial problems/debts in the Netherlands can already go to governmental organisations to deal with these problems. This does not mean the government takes over debt, obviously, and it shouldn't, ever. How would moving everybody in the Netherlands underground solve the issue of the high population density? How would you deal with the obvious financial, logistical, engineering and psychological problems that this implies, just to name a few? I agree that the bio-industry needs to be removed altogether. But the bio-industry is a symptom of our current society, not a cause, penalizing those who work in it does nothing to deal with the cause. Raising awareness and educating people should be a big part of this process. Mandatory military and/or community service only teaches something if yer willing to accept the message. Besides, who decides what society deems as being ‘good’ morals and values? Community service and military service are two completely different things, I don’t see how they would teach the same morals and values.

People with financial problems/debts in the Netherlands can already go to governmental organisations to deal with these problems. This does not mean the government takes over debt, obviously, and it shouldn’t, ever.

How would moving everybody in the Netherlands underground solve the issue of the high population density? How would you deal with the obvious financial, logistical, engineering and psychological problems that this implies, just to name a few?

I agree that the bio-industry needs to be removed altogether. But the bio-industry is a symptom of our current society, not a cause, penalizing those who work in it does nothing to deal with the cause. Raising awareness and educating people should be a big part of this process.

]]> by: harper http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-975 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:31:55 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-975 I love your idea for Israel. Great idea. :) I love your idea for Israel. Great idea. :)

]]> by: Linda http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-974 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:17:58 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-974 IMO, one of the best things that could be done, is allowing citizens to decide how a certain percentage of their tax money is spent. Obviously it's unrealistic that they decide where the entirety goes because there are critical areas where there can be no debate. Education and National defense for example. I'd rather my tax money wasn't spend on a "safe injection site" though those that wish to could decide to check off that particular box or make private donations. 99% of the money would probably be spent maintaing such a system of course, so there wouldn't be much to go around :) As for some of your suggestions. -Privatization fixed our transport system. Privatization doesn't fix a thing though if it basically lives off of corporate welfare. -Mandatory service whither military or civil is akin to slavery. I'm completely serious. If you're going to go down that route, a better method would be to withhold certain benefits unless you've done either. A better method would be not to go down that route at all. -I like your Israel / Palestine suggestion. I'd take it a better further and include non-democratic states in there too though. (Entirely unrealistic / even dangerous in reality). - I feel you're over generalizing "bio-industry" and it comes across that you support collective punishment. - I agree with you on political, war, refugees but would include economic ones as well. IMO, one of the best things that could be done, is allowing citizens to decide how a certain percentage of their tax money is spent. Obviously it’s unrealistic that they decide where the entirety goes because there are critical areas where there can be no debate. Education and National defense for example.

I’d rather my tax money wasn’t spend on a “safe injection site” though those that wish to could decide to check off that particular box or make private donations.

99% of the money would probably be spent maintaing such a system of course, so there wouldn’t be much to go around :)

As for some of your suggestions.

-Privatization fixed our transport system. Privatization doesn’t fix a thing though if it basically lives off of corporate welfare.

-Mandatory service whither military or civil is akin to slavery. I’m completely serious. If you’re going to go down that route, a better method would be to withhold certain benefits unless you’ve done either. A better method would be not to go down that route at all.

-I like your Israel / Palestine suggestion. I’d take it a better further and include non-democratic states in there too though. (Entirely unrealistic / even dangerous in reality).

- I feel you’re over generalizing “bio-industry” and it comes across that you support collective punishment.

- I agree with you on political, war, refugees but would include economic ones as well.

]]> by: Administrator http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-973 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:05:48 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-973 You don't get it. Community service means, in the German system, working for elderly homes, in hospitals, at schoosl. It does NOT entail cleaning roads. You don’t get it. Community service means, in the German system, working for elderly homes, in hospitals, at schoosl. It does NOT entail cleaning roads.

]]> by: Eugenia http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-972 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:46:38 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2006/08/29/if-i-ever-ruled-this-country/#comment-972 >When children turn 18, they must either join the militairy draft, or do >community service (the same system as Germany), in order to learn >values and morals as society deems nescesary. Sorry, but this is the job of the school and parenting, not the military's or physical work. There is absolutely no reason why a kid with an IQ of 160 and inclination towards math must go and clean roads. You see, I have lived in Greece. ALL men must go to serve as soldiers for 21 months. Many of them go there normal and come out FAT and BORED TO DEATH. People who were in university and were very intelligent, come out from there and all they want is to find an easy job and not do research or help the country's technology. They just lose their hunger for life and dreams. So no, I am against any military or community service work, unless is volunteered. You are for it because you haven't lived its consequenses. I have. >When children turn 18, they must either join the militairy draft, or do >community service (the same system as Germany), in order to learn >values and morals as society deems nescesary.

Sorry, but this is the job of the school and parenting, not the military’s or physical work. There is absolutely no reason why a kid with an IQ of 160 and inclination towards math must go and clean roads.

You see, I have lived in Greece. ALL men must go to serve as soldiers for 21 months. Many of them go there normal and come out FAT and BORED TO DEATH. People who were in university and were very intelligent, come out from there and all they want is to find an easy job and not do research or help the country’s technology. They just lose their hunger for life and dreams.

So no, I am against any military or community service work, unless is volunteered. You are for it because you haven’t lived its consequenses. I have.

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