“Moroccon Berber culture (many if not most Moroccans in Holland, including many of my neighbours here in Rotterdam, are Berber, not Arabised Moroccans) is most definitely different from the neo-traditional wahabism of Hejazi origin that the press usually represents as “Islam”, and arabistic islamists are a (vocal) minority. Actually, a wahabist would typically call their traditional form of islam contaminated, impure, full of pagan influences.”

Muslim immigrants where, in Holland?
Or elsewhere?
As for the Netherlands, that is incorrect.
Moroccons and Turks are the main group. Morocco and Turkey are definitely not dominated by fundamentalism. Au contraire, in Turkey it is, unlike in Holland, not allowed to wear a veil in a.o. universities. Those in Turkey that oppose the presently enforced secularism are generally traditionalists, not ‘fundamentalists’.

In Morocco, the cultural and religious picture is very diverse. Moroccon Berber culture is most definitely different from the neo-traditional wahabism of Hejazi that is the press usually represents as “Islam”, and arabistic islamists are a (vocal) minority.

How, then, to “combat” fundamentalism? I have no idea.
How do they combat Christian fundamentalism in the US?

I have not seen any evidence that Muslim fundamentalism poses a threat to anything other than corrupt, undemocratic regimes in countries with traditional Muslim majorities. In countries like (western-sponsored) Egypt, where any political opposition is banned, people are likely to turn to islam(ism) as a last resort, because no ruler would dare proclaim ‘islam’ itself as the enemy; unlike various -isms that political opponents might embrace.

Christians fundamentalists are every bit as bad as Muslim fundamentalists. I think that as a whole though, they are relatively few and far between, outside of America and other third world countries. Christianity has been reduced to a sort of benign tradition — and lets face it, if the whole anti-Evolution, anti-science, anti-Gay culture pops up (and expands) in your country, I very much doubt it’ll be coming from “Christians”.

I think it only makes sense to combat the fundamentalism, which dominates the majority of countries the majority of Muslim immigrants come from, before they (fundamentalists) become a powerful political bloc.

A remember reading a few years ago, that the Dutch were considering adding tests which would turn the fundamentalists away, nullfying the need for people like WIlders. Did that ever happen.

The bible is just as bad when it comes to these issues. That’s because the koran an the bible are written 1700 and 1400 yrs ago respectively. The problem are not those books - the problems are the people still taking them literally.

And yes, extremist Christians exist too. Take a look at the US bible belt for instance.

Is the murder of homosexuals and apostates a traditional Dutch value?

Wilders is saying stuff that he would have gone to jail for in the nineties.
Apart from comparing Muhammad to Hitler and the Qur’an to Mein Kampf, he and his fans are constantly accusing everyone of being “leftists”, even managing to accuse the media of having a leftist bias, which is something as far from the truth as I am from the Andromeda Nebula.

The goddamn Dutch press is mostly a sheeplike grey mass of lazy bums, that noone should dare to tape the label “critical” on.

One thing you learn though: the way fascists take over democratic societies, and how the sheep allow them to.

Smells like hypocrisy to me.