Comments on: GNOME 3.0 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/ I'm a mere, tiny, insignificant cog in a whole clockwork of stupidity. I'm the tiny cog that wants to break free. Seriously. Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:07:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: John S. http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3021 Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:02:05 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3021 So I'm guessing you're not a fan of Microsoft OneNote? :-) So I’m guessing you’re not a fan of Microsoft OneNote? :-)

]]> by: Administrator http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3004 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:59:47 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3004 Saad, Read my comment a few posts above yours. Of course this was a joke :). Saad,

Read my comment a few posts above yours. Of course this was a joke :).

]]> by: Saad http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3003 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:14:14 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3003 Thom, According to <a href="http://uwstopia.nl/blog/2008/07/dont-worry-about-all-the-tabs" rel="nofollow">this blog post</a> it seems that tab mania was nothing more than a joke played upon the GNOME community. Thom,

According to this blog post it seems that tab mania was nothing more than a joke played upon the GNOME community.

]]> by: gus3 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3002 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:31:53 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3002 <blockquote>Tabbing is all the shizzle in web browsers, but all it does is stop you from having differently sized windows, having websites side by side</blockquote> Interesting assertion, considering I have this page in one window (the last of 5 tabs), and the GNOME blog in another, differently-sized window (all by itself). Care to try again?

Tabbing is all the shizzle in web browsers, but all it does is stop you from having differently sized windows, having websites side by side

Interesting assertion, considering I have this page in one window (the last of 5 tabs), and the GNOME blog in another, differently-sized window (all by itself).

Care to try again?

]]> by: RandomGuy http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3001 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:35:55 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3001 The Wikipedia entry about Expose sounds nice but I guess I'll still have to find a Mac store and try this for myself to believe that this method actually scales ;) Anyway, thanks! The Wikipedia entry about Expose sounds nice but I guess I’ll still have to find a Mac store and try this for myself to believe that this method actually scales ;)

Anyway, thanks!

]]> by: TLZ http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3000 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:31:37 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-3000 As much as I find tabs quite conveniant I do indeed think overusing them might make things worse, and for instance in Banshee it just seems stupid. However, one thing caught my attention: "Simplified tabbing support in Gtk+" ( http://blogs.gnome.org/johan/2008/07/12/simplified-tabbing-support-in-gtk/ ) If I understand correctly, you can make your app a tabbed app in one line. How about taking that concept futher, and having tab-manegement to be a desktop-centring thing, rather than a application-centric thing. This way you could have it to simply be a setting wheter apps should be using tabs or not. Personally I think tabs works great where there's too much information to be usefull to view at once. For instance it makes sense that TextMate have tabs(when using projects) since it won't help me all that much to have the text next to eachother. However, if I'm working in Photoshop I might want to compare photos, so there it should definetely *not* be tabs. Another tab-model that is really interesting I think is the one of Opera. Opera is actually a true MDI-app in the sense that it contains windows. The tabs are simply a chooser for the windows, but to most it seems like normal tabs because they are maximized inside Opera by default. "Exposé + Quick Look. " Quick-look only *views* documents. It is great, but does not help when you are working with them. (Though quick-look is great for it's purpose!) Exposé is usefull for finding "that lost window" you can't figure out where is, but if you're working with alot of apps and windows it soon becomes a inefficient way to switch stuff. (I once borrowed a colleages compuer, hit expose to find something and... well, it's looses it's usefullness when you hit 30-40 windows.) Anyway, at least great to see Gnome planning ahead! It's by far my favorite Linux-enviroment. Hope the future will bring good things here. :) As much as I find tabs quite conveniant I do indeed think overusing them might make things worse, and for instance in Banshee it just seems stupid.

However, one thing caught my attention: “Simplified tabbing support in Gtk+” ( http://blogs.gnome.org/johan/2008/07/12/simplified-tabbing-support-in-gtk/ )

If I understand correctly, you can make your app a tabbed app in one line. How about taking that concept futher, and having tab-manegement to be a desktop-centring thing, rather than a application-centric thing.

This way you could have it to simply be a setting wheter apps should be using tabs or not.

Personally I think tabs works great where there’s too much information to be usefull to view at once. For instance it makes sense that TextMate have tabs(when using projects) since it won’t help me all that much to have the text next to eachother. However, if I’m working in Photoshop I might want to compare photos, so there it should definetely *not* be tabs.

Another tab-model that is really interesting I think is the one of Opera. Opera is actually a true MDI-app in the sense that it contains windows. The tabs are simply a chooser for the windows, but to most it seems like normal tabs because they are maximized inside Opera by default.

“Exposé + Quick Look. ”
Quick-look only *views* documents. It is great, but does not help when you are working with them. (Though quick-look is great for it’s purpose!)

Exposé is usefull for finding “that lost window” you can’t figure out where is, but if you’re working with alot of apps and windows it soon becomes a inefficient way to switch stuff. (I once borrowed a colleages compuer, hit expose to find something and… well, it’s looses it’s usefullness when you hit 30-40 windows.)

Anyway, at least great to see Gnome planning ahead! It’s by far my favorite Linux-enviroment. Hope the future will bring good things here. :)

]]> by: Administrator http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2999 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:35:09 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2999 <blockquote>So, would you tell me how you handle so many windows?</blockquote> Exposé + Quick Look.

So, would you tell me how you handle so many windows?

Exposé + Quick Look.

]]> by: Administrator http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2998 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:34:05 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2998 Of course it's a joke, it just gave me the excellent opportunity to rant about my hatred towards tabs :). Of course it’s a joke, it just gave me the excellent opportunity to rant about my hatred towards tabs :).

]]> by: Werekitten http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2997 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:04:41 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2997 Uhm, you do realize that the whole tab frenzy is a running joke, don't you? Uhm, you do realize that the whole tab frenzy is a running joke, don’t you?

]]> by: Spike Burch http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2996 Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:37:17 +0100 http://cogscanthink.blogsome.com/2008/07/13/973/#comment-2996 OSX does a terrible job of the document centric model, especially in comparison with OS 9 or earlier, or even earlier versions of itself. OSX does a terrible job of the document centric model, especially in comparison with OS 9 or earlier, or even earlier versions of itself.

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